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== david said ... ==

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i wondered why he would take a photo of tv screen when he had so much other undeniable evidence, this seems like an unlikely but rational explanation as it would be seem very out of character 2 forge the photo, ive read alot of know it all debunkers on youtube and beyond with there silly ''rational'' explanation, the miniture trees etc! i get angry at people like that but i guess they are on there on path. i just dont know why they go to the bother if they rnt interested!

--david 05:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
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== zameen said ... ==

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People go to such lengths to cover up and or try to falsify the truth in order to keep profit streams alive. A disgusting practice but a reality nonetheless

--zameen 23:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
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== TCFelon said ... ==

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Why can't Ptaah and or somebody who has the know how, intercept in someway with the m.i.b. or whomever, so the people who are trying to help Billy with his real unedited pics. and other unique proofs and have them circulate safely around the world as, Billy, his associates, on ground and above and I would like..   I guess I inadvertently lied to a few of my friends about some of the photos.   I hope one day soon we ,(all of us around the world) can get together without any uncomfortable thoughts/feelings of deceit or any prejudged feelings of hate, jealously and anger towards next man 'and or entity.'      Peace/Wisdom/Love/Truth. To the Plejaren Fed. and their wonderful associates.    

William C.

--[[User:TCFelon|TCFelon]] 18:56, 29 March 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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I agree TCFelon but if they had to capture everybody who falsifies Billy's work and those that lack sincerity and genuineness it would probably take all eternity. They will probably only stop the most heinous pretenders. :) The photos are rather interesting because they say that Asket and Nera are from another universe thus they don't mind there photos being here. Due to the creativity and level of lowness some beings can reach they altered it so they are dancers on a talk show. That calls for a Billy uppercut to the nose. j/k

--Mark 22:28, 29 March 2010 (BST)
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== tom said ... ==

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Próby zamachów na Zycie Billego świadczą o niczym innym tylko o tym, że mówi on prawdę. To samo tyczy sie zafalszowywania jego zdjęć. 
Ci którzy znają temat szaraków i replitalian wiedzą kto to są "ludzie" w czerni... im najmniej zależy na poznaniu przez ludzi prawdy, prawdy, która przecież wyzwala, wyzwala z więzów zniewolenia..
Meier od samego początku, jak zapoznałem się z jego osobą, wyzwala we mnie zaufanie... Jest zupełnie niepodobnym do tych co gonią za władzą i towarzyszącą jej ułudą pieniądza. Zna wiele praw duchowych i sam żyje wedle nich, więc mało prawdopodobne jest to, że próbowałby robić jakiekolwiek fałszerstwa, a tym bardziej, jak niektóre źródła jemu zarzucają, w celu zdobycia sławy lub majątku.
Bardziej mają powody ku temu ci, którzy obawiają się zaistnienia tych praw w ludzkich sercach i umysłach, bo to rujnuje ich starania o zniewolenie gatunku ludzkiego.
Więcej niczego chyba nie trzeba tu dodawać. Przynajmniej ode mnie to wszystko.

--tom 15:15, 11 April 2010 (BST)
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== tom said ... ==

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tom ist from Poland ;) 

--tom 15:18, 11 April 2010 (BST)
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== human being  said ... ==

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BEAM  is awesome, thank you ! controlledfollymaker@gmail.com

--human being  00:08, 10 June 2010 (BST)
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== Matt C.  said ... ==

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This guy is a Fraud. His website is down, and he's far from credible. This is the person who would says that the aliens sent the blueprints for their (trashcan lid looking) UFO's to the wrong people who ended up making them into trash can lids... seriously?
David doesn't know the difference between There and Their, so his opinion is out. 
Is it harder to cover up the "truth" or to fall into the cross hairs of a conman?
I'm going with Occam's Razor on this one. This solution is the simplest, obvious, one; this man is a fraud. 
This post will probably be deleted. Just saying...
 

--Matt C.  08:49, 16 June 2010 (BST)
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== Neckel said ... ==

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no your comment won't get deleted.......... haha it is always interesting to see people who come with information from second or even third hand and make judgments about others without having a clue of the person itself...... this is present in almost everyones life and i bet some judge you also in the same way. I bet you come after me when i do a "spelling" error like David did...... if one has nothing else to offer then one goes after the small and unimportant things, right ;)). If you find sth. with a higher ethic and a higher sense of moral then we can talk again. (Do not come with religions, most of them preach love and make war.) I wish you good luck in your search for the truth.

Salome

--[[User:Neckel|Neckel]] 09:20, 16 June 2010 (BST)
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== DRN said ... ==

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Couple things I don't understand. These are not in any certain order. 
1. You sell these photos. So Wouldn't any copy predating 1984 be of the original photo? And if so, how similar to the forgery are they?
2. How did you find out Mr. S was working for the MIB and when? 
3. If Mr. S disappeared one day without a trace, how did his organization learn of his death?
4. If Billy was told in 1984 these were forgeries, but yet forgot due to amnesia sustained in 1982, how was he able to recollect the origin of his nickname and the first and last name of the woman who gave it to her during an interview in 1982? Was it selected amnesia or partial?
5. If you have a photo of Mr. S and factual evidence he worked for MIB, why not release that info? seems it would clear some up some of the misconceptions.

--DRN 18:21, 11 July 2010 (BST)
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== DRN  said ... ==

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In question 3 when i say "his organization" I mean billy's. 

--DRN  18:28, 11 July 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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DRN 
If I understood correctly MIB is not Will Smith or Tommy Lee Jones OR from our planet. They are from the Sirian region from an alternate time space bred to cause headaches on Earth. If this info is false however there is only one solution to ponder. Is Billy really Billy or is hea fake Billy? In that case arrest Billy, Asket, Nera, we have there photos and Quetzal, Ptaah, Semjase and send them to the prison planet for questioning. No one is exempt from breaking the rules and escaping universal security. :)

--Mark 02:04, 12 July 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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There was a force of renegade Sirians known unofficially as the "men in black," and they were captured in a sting operation by Sirian security personnel in 2006, while operating illegal devices within an ancient Lyran complex upon the Martian surface known as "Cydonia."

The Earthly counterparts of the MIBs are real and were set up in the late 1940s to create fear in the minds and hearts of members of the public, military UFO witnesses, as well as the establishment (Forrestal for example) who may seek to reveal the truth about UFOs visiting this planet...which the Truman administration decided to clamp down upon...

Asket, Nera and Billy having their photos taken together sounds very recreational, but was actually intended to serve a highly useful purpose in furnishing objective evidence that "aliens" are actual relatives of earth humans and not "bug-eyed monsters," as depicted by the media, with some deliberation I might add...
Indeed, there are far more points of commonality that such photos would provide, especially considering the beauty of the women selected and the fact that they were relatives from the DAL universe...(Asket.)

Unfortunately, this benign intent was muddied by the cruel MIBs, using those doubles from the US show...rendering the pix null and void..

A shame Billy did not realise sooner that the photographer (with a little persuading) had conned him with fakes..   

--Drekx Omega 16:00, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== MarksmanR said ... ==

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Drekx, you twist truth with false tales.

"while operating illegal devices within an ancient Lyran complex upon the Martian surface known as "Cydonia.""

^ you made that up, it is not part of FIGU material, Cydonia doesn't exist.

--[[User:MarksmanR|MarksmanR]] 16:34, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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MarksmanR,

Cydonia is a well known region mapped by Earth astronomers and astro-cartographers and named by them; "cydonia." So your ignorant claims of "false tales," are falsehoods in themselves and I don't like your tone...

First of all, FIGU material is not a new religion that demands blind obedience from it's "followers."

Second, the Plejaren do not always expect you to follow everything in the reports, as if it were holy rit.
You are supposed to supplement their data with your own, when possible. So if mention is made of X, you should appreciate it's correlation to Y.

Thirdly, the contact reports do mention the very "sting operation" I mentioned, that ocurred at the Cydonia region complex of monuments upon the Martian surface...

I'll attach the contact report by Ptaah for your perusal and education....

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Men_in_Black,_Mars_and_Meteors


--Drekx Omega 20:51, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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TCFelon said:
"Why can't Ptaah and or somebody who has the know how, intercept in someway with the m.i.b. or whomever, so the people who are trying to help Billy with his real unedited pics"


Drekx response:
The Sirians did capture their own renagade MIBs in 2006, ending a dangerous operation against the Plejaren programme with Meier...

So contrary to popular belief, the Sirians are well known allies of the Plejaren, even if this is not mentioned much in the contact notes, for whatever reason...
The rare exceptions being contact reports 311 and 471...grateful to them for that coverage, so thanks to Billy and Ptaah.

Now with reference to the Earth human MIBs...they are operatives for the American Military-industrial complex of corporations...

Under the laws of human freewill and non interference, neither the Sirians nor Plejaren were able to prevent their mischief, at the time of the Nera/Asket photo fix..

However, with rising human consciousness and full Sirian mandate, that right to protect this planet's people with fairness, is increasingly placing pressure on the evil doers who run the NSA, MIBs, etc, etc...

Maybe if Meier were allowed to try this again, although the Plejaren would not want to risk his life, or that of his family...

It really is dependent on a change in the way this planet is secretly governed, so politics and economics require to be addressed..

Incidentally, there are no ET rulers running the human elites, no "reptiles," etc...just bad human beings running banks, governments, corporations and security..
 

--Drekx Omega 13:55, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==

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how can we see the real pictures .

--[[User:Ashegheaty|Ashegheaty]] 03:38, 3 September 2010 (BST)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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Ashegheaty, Theyfly.com has some nice pictures.Don't worry about photoshopping the pictues Asket AND Nera according to reports are in the DAL universe and cannot be affected by our Earth degeneracies. :)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 14:04, 3 September 2010 (BST)
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==

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i meant real pictures of asket , i searched the entire internet and couldnt find any real pictures of here , can any one help .

--[[User:Ashegheaty|Ashegheaty]] 01:52, 5 September 2010 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Ashegheaty, I think only Billy knows which one is real since he met her face-to-face. But with this in mind it could be the one on the left below: [[File:The real asket.png]]

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 12:38, 5 September 2010 (BST)
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==

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thanks jamesm , i guess those are the long ear lobs that she has . so the timmers have longer earlobs just like the pleiadians . or maybe this is semjase .are you sure this is asket the lady from trillions of light years away , the twin universe of ours .?

--[[User:Ashegheaty|Ashegheaty]] 04:54, 9 September 2010 (BST)
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==

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another question :the pleiadians can time travel so they can travel to the future so much that they can see when our universe has became an absolute absolutum but they say they cant go beyond the seventh great time .so thats only 15 thousand trillion years from now and still a long way for us to become an absolutum , whats there limitation .and the other thing is they know whats gonna happen to humanity in the next 100 , 200 and 1000 years .and if we are going to destroy our self
they know . but they cant interfere in our evolution . 

--[[User:Ashegheaty|Ashegheaty]] 05:02, 9 September 2010 (BST)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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You can tell through the eyes. It is best to meet them in  person because looks can sometimes be manipulated. If you were to meet someone and see natural eye movement relating to certain topics and how they react you will know if they are genuine or fake.:)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 05:10, 9 September 2010 (BST)
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==

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The truth is beautiful.  The Truth is that Billy should be given a Hero Status for enduring all he has in order to bring this information to the world.  I am trying to spread the word of all that has happened and give poeple hope as well as to bring the other truth of Roswell NM. Bob Lasar, Edgar Fouche, Phil Schneider, Gary Mckinnon, Norwegian Politician, and Billy Meier and the Pleiadian Message..  Saalome.

--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 22:31, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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It's so easy to determine who is Asket by using your 6th sense of intuition. With many of BEAM's materials, such "hidden" connections are to be discovered by your inner-self, devoid of ego or assumptions that many restrict themselves unfortunately.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 03:56, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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I agree 110% with Hawaiian.............or maybe not.:)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 05:38, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==

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I agree, the fact that such effort went into forgery of the Photo's of Asket and Nera are more proof that the contacts are & were real.  I have personaly seen evidence that the US Government is in search for Plejaren (The good ones) and that they are working with the Baffath sect of Plejaren.  It is a sickening truth to me that I live in a country that would sell their own people for technology but it is the truth.  They have gone so far as to work with other Dark Ones and combine technologies and use them to try to control the masses.  To date this has been a success, however I and a few others have come forward to provide proof that we are being implanted with control devices that actualy prevent us from meditating and push negative thoughts on us as well.  I share this info through my website on YouTube when asked, just goto my channel, sweet6b9.  Peace & Wisdom Billy Meier.  You are a blessing to the Human Race.

--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 22:55, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
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== CriticalThinker said ... ==

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What an utterly preposterous and lame excuse!

Meier has been caught red-handed faking these and the dinosaur photos.

Do you people have no ability to think critically?

--[[User:CriticalThinker|CriticalThinker]] 12:54, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
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== Sanjin said ... ==

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Hi CriticalThinker.

I've read all of your comments and my thinking has told me that you most likely don't even know what critical thinking means. If you do, your posts are not showing that at all. The word "critical" in the context of critical thinking does not mean negative or disapproving or denigrating thinking, which is what the majority of your posts are based on. You should start representing your nickname a little better by educating yourself on what critical thinking actually means by studying this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking

--[[User:Sanjin|Sanjin]] 21:05, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==

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I agree with Sanjin, it has already been made clear in the contact notes that the photo's were faked and returned to Billy and that at a later date that Quetzl destroyed them all due to the numerous forgeries.  In fact they also mention how it was proven that the forgery of Asket & Nera was not taken from a TV Screen as they tried to claim, that upon closer inspection you could not see the 3 color pixilation that would have appeared if it had been taken from a TV Set.  CriticalThinker sounds like a Disinformation Agent, why would someone who feels this is untrue even bother to create an account or leave messages?  They wouldn't!  Peace & Wisdom

--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 19:33, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
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== Drummerschlong said ... ==

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Can anyone tell me if the galactic federation/ashtar command/andromeda council are real or disinfo?

--[[User:Drummerschlong|Drummerschlong]] 08:23, 4 April 2012 (BST)
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== Drummerschlong said ... ==

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Criticalthinker hahahahahahaha thats the funniest name that is filled with your hypocrisy you are a disinfo jackwagon and dont even know it....who brainwashed you? You must be from the U.S.

--[[User:Drummerschlong|Drummerschlong]] 05:13, 5 April 2012 (BST)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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To Critical Thinker, aka daisycutter.  The pterodactyl photos are not the same.  I tried to point that out to you but you banned me from your youtube site as do all the tards who don't want any views which are aren't in agreement with their own views.  There are about 10 differences between the pictures.  I guess you don't have an eye for detail.

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 15:25, 6 April 2012 (BST)
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==

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Sheila - I have a youtube site also, it is the same name as on here, sweet6b9.  Feel free to contact me there or send a message if that is still possible with the new layout.  I seriously think they changed it to make it harder for me to share the meditation info or the other info I share regarding William Cooper and Phil Schneider who also spoke about Billy Meiers contacts being real.  Have you used the Meditation Exercise precisely the way that Billy said to do it?  I would be interested in sharing info if you have or had any difficulties.  I have some suggestions that help people to stay focused during the meditation.
Peace in Wisdom

--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 08:22, 3 May 2012 (BST)
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==

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JamesM - I cannot leave a reply to you on Main Page?  I appologize if I deleted anything, I may have been correcting my own text and certainly did not realize that I had deleted anyone elses text so again I appologize.  Apparently there are some Disinfo Agents on here (MIB) and they have tried to ridicule what I know.  I will not argue with them.  Billy's contacts were very real and I found the proof while working for the U.S. Government.  This led me to the Meditation Exercise Billy provided to us.  This has been a life changing realization and things have happened.  I respect all that Billy has to say and I only hope that others can also think logicly and realize that in the contact notes when they told Billy that they could not discuss what was happening in America it was to protect him.  Things are bad here, I am tring to wake people up here but it is slow going.  I am not alone.  Feel free to contact me.  I wish we could leave personal messages for each other on this website so I could speak to individuals here. I would have put this in a personal message to you instead of posting it so I appologize for this also.  Blessings to you for maintaining the site and continuing to share the truth from Billy Meiers.
Peace in Wisdom

--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 08:30, 3 May 2012 (BST)
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== james said ... ==

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to understand the BM puzzle one needs to have a more generic view; then the BM piece will fit in the logic of things.. accept the truth or live the consequences.. please analyze the following evidence and make your own mind:

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEV5AFFcZ-s 

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr7FJohm68o

3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp-P031C4Vg

welcome to the real world...

--[[User:James.org.oz|James.org.oz]] ([[User talk:James.org.oz|talk]]), australasia,  09:18, 6 February 2013 (GMT)
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==

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Hello, I would like to know what contact note mentions Billy's partial amnesia.  I remember reading about this in the contact notes but I cannot locate the exact contact Note or Notes that discuss this partial amnesia after his apparent bout with the Flu?

--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] ([[User talk:Sweet6b9|talk]]), Woodbridge Virginia, USA,  20:42, 22 February 2013 (GMT)
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==

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Drummerschlong,  Just my two cents but, I believe that The Galactic Federation of Light is mentioned in the contact notes as being connected to the Baffath, Ashtar Command, well think of the name Ashtar  Ash and Tar.  Sorta Biblical Ash and Tar are not Light and Love..  Just saying.  Lastly, Andromeda Council, Again, in the contact notes the Andromeda council are mentioned as a group that the Plejaren consult for advice.

Peace in Wisdom and many blessings to Billy for enduring the attempts on his life, the many people that joined his group only to turn on him, and his own wife that turned on him later.  I firmly believe that she was affected by the Nano-Implant Technology known as Synthetic Telepathy Implants that has been used by the Lower Dimensional Races to Hypnotize and Control Younger Spiritual Races like the Human Race on Earth.  You will not find much info about this technology anywhere but I can tell you that it is real and that if you use real focus during the meditation exercise that you can detect the implants, they flash bright lights in your eyes in a strobe light effect, this is used to enduce Hypnosis and brain wash people.  It is heavily in use on our planet and is the main reason that so many have been blinded to the truth of spiritual wisdom over Materialism on Earth.  Only when we recognize this very real and prevalent danger can we take action to defend against this control mechanism.

--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] ([[User talk:Sweet6b9|talk]]), Woodbridge Va, USA,  18:46, 23 February 2013 (GMT)
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== Cat said ... ==

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Ashegheaty:  That picture is of Asket (on the left) as Billy was unable to take photos of Semjase due to the fact that she still visits Earth whereas Asket will not come back here for a very long time so there's no risk to her being recognised.  Notice the softer look on Asket's face as opposed to the woman used to fake the pictures, making Billy appear a fake himself.

--[[User:Cat|Cat]] ([[User talk:Cat|talk]]), New Zealand,  06:27, 25 February 2013 (GMT)
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== Val Thor said ... ==

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I have thoroughly examined the video footage and the pictures to find if the pictures came from the footage of the Dean Martin show. The examination of this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6edQVowYLA , shows that the Pictures shown as #110 & #111 do not match the sequences of the actresses within the film. They are very close but nothing was shown that was entirely exact based upon head angles, lip positions, and body positions of the two girls shown in #111. The same was found to be true of correlating #110 with the video footage. These photos are not of the Dean Martin girls. Photo #109 is butchered  and reveals evidence of massive tampering with a girl's face pasted over a male face likely to be Dean Martin beside what can reasonbly be assumed to be Michelle Dellafave based upon the blatancy of the garbled, yet, clear image. I have yet to see anyone hunt for the identity of the girl who is pasted over the male in picture #109.

--[[User:Val Thor|Val Thor]] ([[User talk:Val Thor|talk]]), Sidney usa,  07:55, 26 March 2013 (CET)
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==

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Thank you Cat and Val Thor.  Billy's contacts were very real and just like Jmmanuel's time on earth are a very important part of our future for those that recognize and realize the truth of the power of the Force of Spirit within us all.

I use the Meditation Exercise daily and still I feel such energy, even electrical snergy transference from my top teeth to my bottom teeth and my tongue during the part of the meditation where I am staring at the reflection of the Sun.  I use a Convex Mirror Lense and stare directly at the sunlight during the middle of the day.  I am not trying to increase the rate of my energy growth as I know that all things require patience and time to develop in a Natural and Good way.  I find that many others here in America that were raised in similar surroundings as I was do not possess the patience to perform the exercise daily and do not understand that it may take a year or two before they experience any significant difference in their health, energy, or ability to perform any significant spiritual actions.

However Hope springs eternal and I am always still on the lookout for those few that will find their way back to the light and rediscover the truth of how we are all super humans spiritually.

Many Blessings to you both and to Billy and to the Renegades of Light and the Plejaren Federation and to Creation from my spirit.

Peace in Wisdom

--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] ([[User talk:Sweet6b9|talk]]), Woodbridge VA, USA,  19:02, 23 April 2013 (CEST)
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==

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This is not really related to the Asket and Nera photo's but for anyone that is interested, you can find a photo of me if you search Google for (Demand Peace DC) and when the search results returns, select the link for Images on the top of the page.  Someone took my photo in DC at the Occupation, it is in black and white.  My dog and daughter are in the photo and the Gentleman on the bench to my left is named Nil.  The caption is incorrect, the dogs were playing as they usually did when I went there.  I can no longer travel there due to gas expense and parking tickets.

--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] ([[User talk:Sweet6b9|talk]]), Woodbridge VA USA,  02:07, 7 June 2013 (CEST)
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